Episode 92

Free Agency in Local Government: A conversation with Brad Gotshall about protection, advocacy and reputation.

There is a polite fiction in local government that serving “at the pleasure of the governing body” rests securely on mutual trust. Often it does. Increasingly, it can feel more fragile.

In today’s political climate, the employment relationship between elected officials and their chief administrative officer deserves a closer examination. What protections actually exist? Who advocates for the manager when circumstances shift?

In this episode of Generation on the Rise, Eden Ratliff and Dave Pribulka sit down with Brad Gotshall to explore what it means to become, in his words, a “free agent.” They examine contracts and severance, and they also confront questions of reputation, professional identity, and the personal weight of transitions that can be political, strategic, or simply inevitable.

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⏱️ Timestamps

  1. 00:00 – Cold open, book banter, introductions
  2. 04:30 – Brad’s background: elected official at 17 to professional manager
  3. 09:30 – Transition to Warren County and “free agency”
  4. 11:30 – Protecting yourself as a manager: personal and professional buckets
  5. 13:30 – Contract negotiations: learning the hard way
  6. 16:00 – Do managers need representation?
  7. 19:00 – The loneliness of severance negotiations
  8. 22:00 – Lower Paxton: no contract, negotiated exit
  9. 26:00 – Recruiter’s role in negotiations
  10. 31:00 – Severance pushback and board dynamics
  11. 37:00 – Creative contract structures (Rehoboth example)
  12. 39:30 – Should managers use agents?
  13. 41:30 – Legal review vs. negotiation support
  14. 43:00 – Preserving reputation under NDAs
  15. 45:30 – Building a personal brand before crisis hits
  16. 48:00 – No-fault divorce vs. political dismissal
  17. 50:00 – Wrap-up and Part Two teaser

About the Podcast

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PCC Local Time
A show about ideas and innovation in local government

About your host

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Nancy Hess

The Pioneering Change Community (PCC) hosts informal conversations about evolving ideas in local government management. I am founder of the PCC community and creator of the PCC Local Time podcast. I am also an HR & Org Development consultant who works with local governments to build high engagement workplaces. You can find out more about my work at www.njhessassociates.com