Episode 81

Conditions for Change: What it Takes to Move......a team, an organization, a local government.

Hosts Dave PribulkaEden Ratliff, and Brandon Ford, are joined by Nancy Hess for a candid talk about what real change management looks like in local government. They explore how trust, timing, and human connection shape change — from labor negotiations to leadership teams to community-driven expectations.

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⏱️ Show Notes

02:0010:00 - What change management really looks like: buy-in, communication, and shifting expectations.

10:0018:00 - Real-world examples: labor negotiations, labor dynamics, and the conditions that make change possible.

18:0025:00 - External forces: AI, community pressure, and unexpected participation.

25:0033:00 - Pacing and leadership: slowing down on purpose, avoiding rushed decisions, emotional intelligence.

33:0042:00 - Trust, vulnerability, and the “blockbuster questions” that unlock better decisions.

42:0044:00 - Wrap-up: reflections and close.

About the Podcast

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PCC Local Time
A show about ideas and innovation in local government

About your host

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Nancy Hess

The Pioneering Change Community (PCC) hosts informal conversations about evolving ideas in local government management. I am founder of the PCC community and creator of the PCC Local Time podcast. I am also an HR & Org Development consultant who works with local governments to build high engagement workplaces. You can find out more about my work at www.njhessassociates.com